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salut,daca stie cineva procedura la un esp,mi-am montat pe un golf 4 esp,toate bune si frumoase,dar cand sa fac testul esp,nu imi da voie senzorul de la volan acceleratie laterala,defective intermitent,

mentionez ca masina nu are esp din fabrica,nu am apucat inca sa-i schimb softul,poate fi de la soft-ul de motor?,ca am abs-ul aprins si nu pot face nimic.

 

multumesc anticipat

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gheta.gabi

Salutare,

De curand, cablajul defectuos al lui G47 mi-a facut fericirea cu eroarea Steering Limit Stop Adaptation.

Am rezolvat cablajul, am readapatat G85-ul, dar servodirectia este cam la 40% din capacitate, si am eroarea pe VCDS: Steering Limit Stop Adaptation

Am incercat adaptarea de pe RossTech, dar nimic nu merge, de cel putin 20 de ori am incercat + un drum de 600km.

(Engine still running)

Center steering wheel (±10°) and hold it centered for 5 seconds.

Turn steering wheel completely to the left and hold it there for 10 seconds.

Turn steering wheel completely to the right and hold it there for 10 seconds.

Center steering wheel (±10°).

Switch OFF engine and ignition.

Switch ON ignition.

Wait 5 seconds.

Steering Assist Warning Lamp should turn OFF. If it doesn't, perform a short test drive.

Nu mai stiu ce sa fac, devine enervant si nu stiu pe cine sa mai intreb.

Sper sa ma puteti ajuta.

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Al Bundy

Dupa G85 se merge max 100m si se face steering limit stop si se tine volanul maxim stanga sau dreapta pana se aud 3 beepuri.

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gheta.gabi

Masina mea este 2006. Acele 3 beep nu se aud la cele dupa 2009?

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Al Bundy

Nu stiam din ce an este a ta. 

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gheta.gabi

Ok, acum ca stii, vreo idee? Sa incerc re adaptarea pana o ia?

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Al Bundy

DA, nu am auzit de o masina , fara defectiuni, la care sa nu se poata face adaptarea .Dupa G85 se merge max 100m si se face steering limit stop.

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gheta.gabi

Exact si dilema mea... Nu mai stiu ce sa fac :(

Oare o geometrie defectuoasă poate duce la imposibilitatea calibrării?

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Atasez si LOG:

 

Thursday,02,February,2017,18:14:46:62939
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Data version: 20130910


VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ6E166259   License Plate: B 777 MLC
Mileage: 214790km-133464mi   Repair Order: 

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Chassis Type: 3C (3C0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 53 55 56 62 69
          72 76 77 7D

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ6E166259   Mileage: 214790km/133464miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-021-BMM.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 997 021 J    HW: 028 101 271 9
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G200AG  2286  
   Revision: --H02---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 0000078
   Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
   VCID: 306FF64BA3D6889E243-8065

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
   Part No SW: 02E 300 042 S    HW: 02E 927 770 AE
   Component: GSG DSG         070 1127  
   Revision: 04507000    Serial number: 00000512120208
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 44551 111 44551
   VCID: 23450907E2202306A91-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3C0-614-095-C2.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 614 095 Q    HW: 3C0 614 095 Q
   Component: ESP 440 C2     H015 0003  
   Revision:  H015       Serial number: 0658605928
   Coding: 0032037
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 306FF64BA3D6889E243-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3C0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 044 AC    HW: 3C0 907 044 AC
   Component: ClimatronicPQ46 050 0404  
   Revision: 00050005    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 62CB4C03BDBA6A0EE27-8037

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 J    HW: 3C0 937 049 J
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1301  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005328647
   Coding: E3808A07011E1A28000000000F000000002B00405C0000
   Shop #: WSC 10101 599 10101
   VCID: 306FF64BA3D6889E243-8065

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW461  012  0503  
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 10101  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 T  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 011  1110  
   Coding: 00405541
   Shop #: WSC 10101  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3C0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 J    HW: 3C0 909 605 J
   Component: 04 AIRBAG VW8   029 2521  
   Revision: 09029000    Serial number: 003A2PSLJF5%  
   Coding: 0012340
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 2D51EF3FB4E4E5760F5-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0D410458 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0C44347B 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS61IK60J83 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6I2IE66G2 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW20.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 E    HW: 3C0 953 549 E
   Component: J0527               0015  
   Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 3C5953507P    
   Coding: 0001111
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 2E53E833B9E29E6E36F-807B

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           007 0050

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3C0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 920 870 Q    HW: 3C0 920 870 Q
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 4240  
   Revision: X0033000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0005105
   Shop #: WSC 00000 067 57207
   VCID: 3169F34FA8DC81962BD-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 3C0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 C    HW: 3C0 907 951 A
   Component: Gateway         007 0040  
   Revision: 00007000    Serial number: 0700C05C1606EC
   Coding: 7FFDBC14C61002
   Shop #: WSC 10101 599 00022
   VCID: 2149030FF83C3116BBD-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 799     HW: 3C0 959 799 
   Component:    IMMO         067 0364  
   Revision: 00067000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: F6E38053813266AE3EF-80A3

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 B
   Component:    ELV          022 0350
   3C0905861B     ELV          022 0350   

1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 211
                    Mileage: 212489 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.12.30
                    Time: 14:31:33


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 L
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2461  
   Coding: 0000183
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 377DCD5746B85FA6659-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D06 1701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3365F94752C0B386591-8066

1 Fault Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 4760 km
                    Temperature: 13.0°C
                    Voltage: 13.90 V
                    Voltage: 13.70 V


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3C0-959-799-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 799     HW: 3C0 959 799 
   Component:    KESSY PQ46   067 0336  
   Revision: 00067000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 18910A0801C64E76380615156008CF0E00380003242480
   Shop #: WSC 05311 123 12345
   VCID: F6E38053813266AE3EF-80A3

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 456 C    HW: 3C0 035 456 C
   Component: DSP 10 Kanal        0012  
   Revision: 00009000    Serial number: 00000000002802
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 204F060BF336381EB43-8075

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 L
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2461  
   Coding: 0000182
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 387FCE6B4BA650DE6C3-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3C0-907-801-53.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 801 B    HW: 3C0 907 801 B
   Component: EPB  VC8HC001   013 0001  
   Revision:   013       
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 2149030FF83C3116BBD-8074

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V1.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357     HW: 5M0 907 357 
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    X016  
   Revision:   H09       Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: F1E9B34FE85C4196EBD-80A4

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    X017  
   Coding: 00000035

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 330 
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    X017  
   Coding: 00000035

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 AD
   Component: Radio GR0       034 0033  
   Revision: 0003404S    Serial number: VWZ2Z2H6970093
   Coding: 0040400
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 68DF5E2B5B86005E3C3-803D

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2432  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 3365F94752C0B386591-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 69: Trailer        Labels: 1K0-907-383-MY7.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383     HW: 1K0 907 383 
   Component: ANHAENGERELEKTR 001 0020  
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 08193
   VCID: EADBA423C58AB24EAA7-80BF

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 3C0-919-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 919 283 B    HW: 3C0 919 283 B
   Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan 004 0011  
   Revision: 00004000    Serial number: 82930535400951
   Coding: 0011014
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 285F1E2B9B06C05EFC3-807D

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 3C0-035-729.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 035 729 E    HW: 3C0 035 729 E
   Component: Telefon             7019  
   Revision: 00009000    Serial number: 0000000694803
   Coding: 0016023
   Shop #: WSC 45497 142 83351
   VCID: 2541171FEC14DD36C75-8070

2 Faults Found:
02791 - Telephone baseplate (R126) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 19
                    Mileage: 214798 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.02.01
                    Time: 18:07:30

01524 - Antenna for Telephone 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 19
                    Mileage: 214798 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.02.01
                    Time: 18:07:30


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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D51EF3FB4E4E5760F5-8078

No fault code found.

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Al Bundy

masina ta are doar 4600 km ?

 

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gheta.gabi

Nu, are 214.000 km. Exact la asta ma uitam si eu... a vazut nr de km prost VCDS-ul....

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ForceTurbo

Daca lucrezi cu interfata clona s-ar putea sa ai si alte surprize!

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gheta.gabi

Ok, am înțeles asta..  dar un răspuns care sa mă ajute in cazul de fata de poate?

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F l o r i n

Gabitzu - nu pare nimic defect (din log), clar ca ceva nu este ok - in schimb mai exista masini care au ramas in procedura de Limit stop, dar si-au revenit, in timp - nu e chiar unica, pe lume...:)

Tot asa, incercarile anterioare - repetate, setari de baza, etc - care le-ai tot incercat tu cu aceea clona, cand ai dat vina pe can gateway-ul inlocuit (ti-am zis de la telefon ca nu e de la el - de fapt era intrerupt cablajul intre senzorul de viteza stanga fata si pompa ABS)..... nu au ajutat si probabil de aici se trage.

Cand ai timp, sa vedem / verificam valorile din blocurile de masura - sa vedem ce se intampla cu caseta ta.

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gheta.gabi

Ai dreptate Florin, dar a doua zi dupa ce am luat masina de la tine am facut 600km, si eroarea persista, deci ma indoiesc ca trebuie sa fac mii de km pentru a-si reveni. 

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F l o r i n

in mod normal, trebuie sa faci 50m.

Am intalnit si cazuri care si-au revenit cand au vrut - in general cele care au probleme cu G269

Asa cum ti-am mai zis si la telefon.... avand in vedere ca nu si-a revenit, cand ai timp, treci sa ne uitam un pic la ea - nu te mai juca tu....

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gheta.gabi

Am mai aprofundat cautarea... am gasit AICI adaptare din VCDS pentru Reglaj sensibilitate directie -sistemele de directie asistate electronic. Prin trial & error, ma gandesc sa incerc si aceasta adaptare, intru-cat dupa schimbarea CAN-ului este foarte probabil ca setarile de baza sa nu mai fie cele corecte...

De asemenea, pe diverse forumuri dedicate din alte tari, alti useri care au intampinat aceeasi problema ca si mine, au rezolvat-o prin schimbarea acelui Senzor Unghi Bracaj situat sub volan.

L-am comandat si Miercuri ajunge.

Problema persista, nimeni nu-i da de cap, si deja devin un pic disperat, pentru masina este inutilizabila din cauza servodirectie extrem de greoaie.

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F l o r i n

Nu vreau sa te dezamagesc, dar cred ca l-ai cumparat degeaba.

Senzorul acela este G85 - daca avea probleme, nu se putea face setarea de baza la G85, nu vedea unghiul de bracaj - la tine merg aceste functii.

 

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gheta.gabi

Nu e panica.

Il schimb, si daca merge bine, daca nu, il dau retur. Am grija sa nu aiba urma de montaj si aia este.

Dupa cum spuneam mai sus, deja devin disperat, nimeni nu-mi poate spune "este aia, sau ailalta" si am dat deja peste 500 lei la diversi pentru aflarea problemei, si chiar la fosti lucratori in reprezentante VW cu VAS si nimeni nu intelege de ce nu se adapteaza caseta de directie, daca nu am nici un fel de eroare.

Am testat/scanat masina si cu VCDS original Ross-Tech si cu VAS si singura eroare, este vesnica 02546 steering limit stop.

Am incercat readapatarea in fel si chip, fara sa exagerez de minim 30 ori, anvelopele de pe fata (NOI) s-au distrus de la atata virat pe loc, de cand am luat masina de la tine dupa schimbarea lui G47, am facut peste 750km, crezand ca poate are nevoie de timp sa se readapteze...

Ba mai mult, am mers si in cerc virat stanga maxim si dreapta maxim, pana am ametit la propriu.

Crede-ma, ca nu stiu ce sa mai fac si unde sa ma mai duc.

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F l o r i n

Eu as incerca cu alt calculator de coloana - sa vedem daca refacerea procedurilor permite setarea limitei de forta.

Daca nici asa, incercat un update de software, la 44.

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Al Bundy

steering limit stop are treaba cu caseta, nu cu g85.

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gheta.gabi

Adica zici ca este caseta defecta, sau cum?

Detaliaza un pic, pentru ca pe caseta nu-mi da nici o eroare, dupa cum bine ai vazut in LOG.

Daca da, exista diagnoza cu VCDS sa se poate observa daca caseta este defecta sau nu?

Mentionez ca nu am batai/joc in volan.

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F l o r i n

se poate sa fie si o problema pe software si de aici sa nu mai vrea sa faca limit stop-ul. Nu e obligatoriu sa ai cine stie ce erori, in acest sens si nu vorbim de uzura mecanica - ca sa bata, etc.

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gheta.gabi

Am fost la PBV1 ... Deznodamantul, trebuie schimbata caseta de directie, pentru ca nu-si face unghiurile nici dupa resoftare :(

Totusi, un gand nu-mi da pace... Fiind electrica, exista posibilitatea sa mearga pe jumatate?

Adica, logica imi zice ca un lucru electric fie merge, fie nu...

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gheta.gabi

Revin cu noutati. Am cumparat o caseta de directie SH de pe un Passat din 2007, am schimbat-o, si acum totul este in regula.

Desi nu vad nici acum logica, caseta de directie veche era defecta.

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