Ce secrete ascunde Climatronicul.

[Serby]

Eu patesc la fel de ceva vreme. Momentan nici un simptom... decat ca face asa la pornire, isi revine si e ok.

[Thheo]

semnaleaza ca este o eroare majora in sistem... de genul nu este presiune in instalatie.. baga un vag-com

[voinea]

exact. Astfel te anunta sistemul de climatronic ca are o eroare stocata. Baga un tester sa vezi ce este si sa remediezi.

[ovidiuboss]

OK

Multam.

[RoSonic]

Pana la Vag-Com poti testa asa:

tinute apasate simultan ECON si CIRCULARE AER si pus contactul, se aprind toate ledurile de pe Climatronic, dupa care incepe sa sufle aer cu diferite intensitati (isi face teste). Dupa care intra in modul de aratare al erorilor. Daca e 000 afisat nu-i nici o eroare. Daca sunt erori cu temp+ se trece de la una la alta.

procedura cum am gasit-o: (tradusa cu translator d'ala online din germana)

Control member test

activation: Introducing the control member test is done via the following : simultaneous pressing of the keys "ECON" and "CIRCULATING AIR" Ignition switch on? above combination of keys further as t ³ to 2s pressed regard Þ test active (in the announcement of the Climatronic all segments appear)

Description: In now the control member test automatically running off (duration approx. 30s) the actuators are defined headed for in dependence of the time. The moreover the periphery of the controller (sensors, engines, fresh air blower, push button switch) becomes, as far as the diagnostic conditions are given (see diagnostic work statement), diagnosed. Before and after the control member test the actuators are controlled by the system software. During the control member test all keys are locked and all segments in the LCD switched on. An introduced control member test can be broken off neither over the keyboard nor over the VAG tester. After conclusion of the self check the controller switches automatically into the mode: "error memory selections over keyboard" (see documentation). The description of the test run takes place in the VAG documentation.

By manipulation of "temp +" the next error is indicated. Key "temp +" Þ XXX (next error) after all error codes were indicated, appears: 000 Þ expenditure end no error is present, appears the following code: 444 Þ no error recognized Error memory clear: After expenditure end (announcement of 000, i.e. no further error) the error memory can be cleared. 000 Þ key "ECON" for t ³ 2s operates as confirmation is indicated: 444 Þ no error recognized

Mode leave: brief manipulation of the "ECON" key Data source error location error FFFF controller 0x25

0119 givers for driving speed 0x25

0214 supply voltage 0x06, 0x07

021A reference tension 0x06, 0x07 of

0510 temperature sensors blow out Mannanstroemer (1296) 0x1d, 0x1e of

0511 temperature sensors blowing out floor space (1297) 0x1d, 0x1e

030B temperature sensor outside temperature bumper 0x1d, 0x1e of

0311 temperature sensors instrument panel (inactive) of

0313 temperature sensors fresh air suction port 0x1d, 0x1e of

0332 temperature sensors evaporator 0x1d, 0x1e

0333 pressure sensor for refrigerants

0318 push button switches for air conditioning system 0x23

031C BEMO for temperature sensor (inactive)

031D photo sensor for sun exposure 0x1d, 0x1e 0x23

043F basic adjustment does not code

0382 compressor valve

04F7 actuator for temperature flap 0x25

04F8 actuator for central flap 0x25

04F9 fresh air blower 0x25

04FA actuator for stagnation pressure flap 0x25

025B actuator for Fussr/Defrost flap 0x25

04B6 service life signal 0x25

0538 CAN bus

0513 gateway

053D combination

04AE gateway database version

0414 controller not accomplished 0x23

062E signal for coolant temperature (inactive)

[RoSonic]

Sau pentru a vedea direct erorile stocate (fara autotestarea de mai sus) apasat ECON+Recirculare aer 2-3 secunde. Si apoi ca mai sus cu temp+ se trece prin erori. (000 daca nu e niciuna stocata)

PS: iar o sa zica Serban ca el nu are ECON :D

[Serby]

exact. Astfel te anunta sistemul de climatronic ca are o eroare stocata. Baga un tester sa vezi ce este si sa remediezi.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Mersi si eu.. uitasem sa mentionez.. la inceput facea ocazional, acum face zilnic.. si de cand face asa nu mai imi baga aer rece... Sper sa nu fie compresorul..

Si da.. eu nu am ECON :)

Modificat 5 Iulie, 2005 de Serby

[RoSonic]

Pentru cei fara ECON :D

1. Diagnosis Climatronic to 1994

1.1. With the Climatronic (CT) there are 3 diagnostic functions: 2. Fehlerspeicher query 3. Measured values read 4. Stellglieddiagnose

2. Error memory queries

2.1. How does one recognize whether an error is stored? If with approx. 15 seconds switch the display of the CT for the ignition on long flash, at least one error is stored.

2.2. How do I query the error memory?

- ignition

- CT switch on

- mechanism of the CT switch on (press autokey)

- key OFF and temp switch "+" at the same time at least for 3sec on. Pressures

- digit error code and on the right of 2 a digit function code (00 = error memory query) appears on the left of the 4

- the 4 digit error code and temp note "+" press again, it appear the next error code or 0000 - note the error codes until 0000 appears

- appear 0000, are stored no further error

- key OFF long than 3 seconds. Keep pressed around the error memory to delete

- 4444, thereafter key OFF presses briefly, it appears the normal display appears

2.3. Error code the description of the error codes itself in the file Fehler.xxx

3. Measured values read

3.1. To the values must one reads off into the mode measured values reads to change.

- engine start -

CT switch on -

key AUTO ONES press -

keys OFF and temp "-" at the same time at least 3 seconds.

- digit error code and on the right of the 2 digit function code (01 = measured values read) appears on the left of the 4

- in the change flash the 4 digit error code and the measured value keep pressed

- the explanation of the error codes and the measured values are in the file Messwerte.xxx

4. Control member diagnosis

4.1. Introduce the control member diagnosis

- ignition switched off

- the keys OFF and temp "+" at the same time longer than 3 seconds. Keep pressed and the ignition switch on

- are accomplished the following test:

- test of the indicator display

- function test of the 3 actuators

- current path to the fresh air blower

- current path to the magnetic clutch at the compressor at the end test appears 0000 or 4 a digit error code.

Modificat 6 Iulie, 2005 de RoSonic

[RoSonic]

Codurile pentru alea pana in 1994.

Error code Climatronic (CT) error code:

1111 controller of the CT of defectively

2312 givers for cooling agent temp terminate 0000 expenditure.

3133 outside temperature feelers of

3211 temperature sensors cockpit left beside radio of

3213 temperature sensors intake air channel of

3223 thermal relays for evaporators of

3224 push button switches possible too little cooling agents of

3234 blowers for 3211

3241 photo sensor for sun exposure at the left loudspeaker

4122 actuator temperature flap

4123 actuator central flap

4131 actuator stagnation pressure flap 4444 no errors available

Measured values error codes:

1231 driving speed Km/h of

1323 kickdown switches 1=an 0=aus 0 with transmission

2312 coolant temperature degree of

3133 outside temperature degree of

3211 temperature sensors cockpit degree of

3213 temperature sensors intake air channel degree of

3223 thermal relays for evaporator 0 = openly, 1 = geschl.

3224 push button switches various shifting processes

3241 photo sensor for sun exposure announcement to 100

4121 magnetic clutch for compressor 0=aus, 1=ein over 5 degrees of outside temperature, otherwise from

0000 expenditure end

[badmania98]

Bine v-am gasit. Si greu v-am mai gasit. Am vazut la un VW Passat ca prin anumite combinatii de la clima apare afisat un menu pe display. Combinatiile de taste respective nu duc la un astfel de menu la Seatul meu. Poate stiti careva tricks-uri referitoare la aceste menu-uri ascunse valabile la masinile noastre. :lol:

[crazyidane]

La Seat, cel putin la Leon, din ce am citit si din ce am testat si eu am vazut, printre altele, ca:

1. Cominatia de intrare in meniu este: RECIRCULARE + SAGEATA SUS

2. Viteza reala este afisata SIGUR pe canalul 17

3. Chiar are o problema de afisare a vitezei reale! Cand sta pe loc afiseaza tot timpul 2, iar in mers afiseaza tot timpul decalat IN SUS cu 3 km/h fata de ce am pe bord !! Si sigur nu e bine...pt. ca am facut eu ceva teste cu radarul de la Arcul de Triumf (ma rog...care sper sa fie bun...adik sa afiseze o valoare corecta) si viteza este de fiecare data cu aproximativ 8-9% mai mica decat cea de pe bord.

Ma gandesc ca problema sa vina de la soft, care nu este actualizat fata de modelele procedente. Adik la modelele mai noi sa fi schimbat anumite componente ale masinii si sa nu fi schimbat softul.

Oricum un lucru este clar: este o problema generala, nu doar pentru anumiti indivizi!

P.S. Concluzie neautorizata :confused:

[F l p]

Salut,

A incercat cinvea asa ceva pe o IBIZA? Eu m-am tot jucat azi cu climatronicul si am reusit sa-l faca sa-mi apara 444 (in stanga) si 00 (in partea dreapta a ecranului), asta dupa am tinut apasat pe Recirculare + Econ + orice sageata de dirjare a aerului (parbriz, frontal, sau pe la picioare).

Chestia este ca apoi pe orice as apasa (mai putin Econ care ma scoate din meniu) nu schimba deloc meniul.

Treaba asta cu meniul a functionat la toti cu climatronic?

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Seat Ibiza 1.2

[X-Ecutor]

Esti primul cred care incearca asta pe ibiza.

[RoSonic]

Eu m-am tot jucat azi cu climatronicul si am reusit sa-l faca sa-mi apara 444 (in stanga) si 00 (in partea dreapta a ecranului), asta dupa am tinut apasat pe Recirculare + Econ + orice sageata de dirjare a aerului (parbriz, frontal, sau pe la picioare).

Chestia este ca apoi pe orice as apasa (mai putin Econ care ma scoate din meniu) nu schimba deloc meniul.

Pai inseamna ca nu are erori memorate.

[F l p]

asta e bine, ca nu are erori, insa pe orice buton apas, sau de orice rotita invart (fie temperatura fie volum) nu se intampla nimic, nu reusesc sa intru in alte meniuri (cum ar fi viteza sau multe din cele prezentate anterior)

[Thheo]

Ala este alt meniu... 2 chestii distincte.. partea de diag si partea de erori

[F l p]

Mda, inseamna ca nu am reusit eu sa intru in meniul care trebuie.

Cu toate ca am apasat pe toate alea pe acolo (si de mai mute ori), doar la combinatia mentionata se intampla ceva (adica Reciclare+Econ+Directionare Aer).Ciudat

[F l p]

:lol:

Offf, offf, offf. Nu reusesc si ma roade chestia asta.

Ati mai auzit de masini mai noi de mai/iunie 2005 la care sa nu fie accesibil meniul de computer de bord?

Am stat cu toate butoanele apasate si rotite si nu vrea sa arate nimic nou.

Singura varianta este aceea descrisa mai sus, cu meniul de erori.

[radulein]

RoSonic de unde ai codurile alea pt climatronic fara tasta econ? pls da si tu un link, ceva...Am facut si eu o diagnoza si la sfarsit imi da un cod 4444 02 care habar n-am ce vrea sa insemne...

[RoSonic]

Pai 4444 am impresia ca indica faptul ca nu e nici o eroare....

ger: 4444 Keine Fehler vorhanden

eng: 4444 no errors available

Nu mai stiu de unde le-am luat, am un fisier in germana pe care l-am tradus automat cu translator de pe web...

Modificat 27 Iulie, 2005 de RoSonic

[radulein]

aha...si 02? Chestia e ca de cateva luni a inceput display-ul sa faca flash-uri cand pornesc motorul ceea ce am inteles din ce am citit pe aici ca ar fi o eroare undeva. Ce-i drept ca de vreo 3 saptamani nu mai face...al dreaq s-o fi reparat singur :)

[mns]

Am avut si eu ieri o problema cu climatronicul, a inceput sa palpaie display-ul...eroarea era 4F9 (sau 04F9 fresh air blower 0x25 dupa cum am vazut pe pagina precedenta) are vreo legatura cu faptu lca am lasat masina 4 ore in soare...temperatura foarte mare apoi am pronit brusc aerul conditionat aproape la maxim? a facut asta le aproape 3 porniri si apoi m-am jucat cu el putin am pornit/oprit toate functiile si de 2 zile aproape nu a mai dat nici o eroare. E ceva grav?

[SpeedeR]

la g5 climatronicul nu mai ascunde secrete ,nu!?

[gorrocs]

Cum sa nu :)

Check Post #58, #54

[SpeedeR]

10q...nu am observat