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O serie de functiuni sunt ascunse in display-ul climatronicului si se pot activa prin apasarea simultana a tastelor ECON + Temp DOWN (albastru) + Viteza ventilator viteza mica (sageata in jos)

Apoi din butoanele de temperatura (albastru - rosu) se modifica meniul afisat.

Registrul nr. 16 ofera informatia digitala despre viteza de deplasare.

Conform altor discutii intalnite exista si afisarea temperaturii uleiului, a agentului de racire, temp interioara, etc. dar nu am confirmat registrul.

Orice alte informatii sunt asteptate cu nerabdare.

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Am maigasit cateva exemple de functiuni

01 Interior temperature (sensor)

03 Sunlight sensor

07 Coolant temperature sensor

10 Measured blower speed (sensor)

16 Speed (sensor)

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...merge si la Octavia cu Climatronic (se pare ca la orice masina cu climatronic in grupul vw)

pt a intra in modul "service" se apasa concomitent tastele: "rece" + "ventilatie minus + econ

navigarea intre canale se face apasand deodata tastele de temperatura plus si minus.

00 = starea de incalzire 0=racire max, 255=incalzire max

01 = temperatura interioara

02 = indexul mediu de radiatie a soarelui

03 = index radiatie in mW/cm2

04 = temperatura exterioara medie in bara din fatza

05 = temp. exteriara momentane in bara f.

06 = temp in canalul de aspiratie aer pt climatizare

07 =

08 =

09 =

10 = treapta de ventilatie

11 = clapeta de temperatura - 0=max cald, 255=max rece

12 = clapeta duze superioare

13 = clapeta recirculare

14 = clapeta parbriz

15 = timpul de la pornirea motorului in secunde

16 = viteza actuala

........

din cate stiu, sunt 45 de canale in total, printre care si unul pt temp ulei, presiune in turbo, etc.....

Bog

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Buna descoperire

E misto sensorul de temp interioara si de viteza.

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Aceasta este lista pentru codurile climatronic ale AUDI (sunt mai multe decat la VW)

1 Digital value of Interior Temperature Sensor, in Headliner (G 86)

2 Digital value of Interior Temperature Sensor, in Instrument Panel (G 56)

3 Digital value of Fresh Air Intake Duct Temperature Sensor (G 89)

4 Digital value of Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor (G 17), front

5 Digital value of Outside Air (Ambient) Temperature Sensor

6 Digital value of Ambient Temperature Sensor At Fresh Air Blower (G 109)

7 Digital value of Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92)

8 Delta value of Temperature Regulator Flap

9 Non-corrected specified value of Temperature Regulator Flap

10 Digital value of Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)

11 Specified value of Central Flap

12 Digital value of Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 114)

13 Specified value of Footwell/Defroster Flap

14 Digital value of Air Flow Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 113)

15 Specified value of Air Flow Flap

16 Vehicle Speed (km/h)

17 Actual Air Blower voltage (Volts)

18 Specified Fresh Air Blower voltage (Volts)

19 A/C Compressor (A/C Clutch) voltage (Volts)

20 Number of low voltage occurrences, non-transient

21 Cycle condition of A/C Refrigerant High Pressure Switch (F 118)

22 Cyclings of the A/C Refrigerant High Pressure Switch (F 118)

23 Cyclings of the switches, absolute non-fluctuating

24 Analog/Digital value, Kick-Down Switch

25 Analog/Digital value, Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Warning Light

26 Engine Speed (RPM)

27 N/A

28 A/C Compressor speed in rpm (Equals Engine Speed x 1.28)

29 Software version

30 N/A

31 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Temperature Regulator Flap

32 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Central Flap

33 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Footwell/Defroster Flap

34 Potentiometer malfunction counter, Air Flow Map

35 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92)

36 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Temperature Regulator Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 92), max. stop

37 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)

38 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Central Flap Motor Potentiometer (G 112)

39 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G114)

40 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Footwell/Defroster Flap Motor Potentiometer (G114)

41 Feedback value, cold end-stop, Air Flow Map Motor Potentiometer (G 113)

42 Feedback value, hot end-stop, Air Flow Map Motor Potentiometer (G 113)

43 Vehicle operation cycle counter

44 Calculated interior temperature (internal software, in digits)

45 Outside (ambient) temperature, filtered, for regulation (internal software)

46 Outside (ambient) temperature, unfiltered, (internal software, in deg C)

47 Outside (ambient) temperature, unfiltered, (in digits)

48 Malfunction counter for speedometer (vehicle speed) signal

49 Standing time (in minutes)

50 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) in deg C

51 Graphics channel 1 - A/C compressor switch-off conditions are identified by illuminated segments of the

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am inteles ca pentru garniturile de la compresorul de la AC e bine sa le pornesti o data pe luna.... cum se poate face kestia asta la climatronic iarna???? :shock:

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Povestea cu "garniturile de la circuitul de AC" este valabila pentru refrigerantul vechi (cel care continea freon). Dupa 98 nu se mai foloseste deloc acel refrigerant. Unele modele chiar cu mult inainte de 98 au inlocut tipul de refrigerant.

Daca vrei sa poti folosi AC-ul si la temperaturi mai scazute de 3 grade trebuie sa modifici o setare cu VAG-com-ul. (am citit undeva procedura dar nu am dat importanta)

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Chid, compresorul de la AC se dezactiveaza actionand functia ECON de la Climatronic

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hehe....asta stiu... nu stiu cum se pune in functiune cand e frig..... :shock:

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Am incercat combinatia de coduri la mine, dar n-a mers... :salut:

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Incearca cu Auto + viteza ventilatie in sus sau Recirculare + viteza ventilatie in sus.

La Leon (daca tot a reinviat subiectul): recirculare + sageata sus (cea de la se seteaza dirijarea aerul pe la parbriz).

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...testata pe A4 2001 ....

din pacate nu am reusit sa traduc toti termenii tehnici... :study:

The codes as follows query:

1. Ignition switch on

2. Circulating air key with the autosymbol (down right) press and keep pressed

3. Key with the arrow upward (right above) press and again release

4. Key with the autosymbol (down right) again release

5. In the left indication area now 0C (C appears, not degrees!)

6. With the cold/warm keys now the function (diagnostic channel) can be selected

7. The key with the autosymbol (down right) press and again release

Channel/contents:

1 system error

2 actual value feeler virtually

3 actual value interior feeler console

4 actual value outside temperature - feeler wasserkasten

5 actual value outside temperature - feeler bumper

6 actual value blowing out feeler floor space

7 actual value blowing out feeler Mannanstroemer

8 display checks

9 actual digital value acknowledging potentiometer temperature flap

10 target digital value temperature flap

11 actual digital value acknowledging potentiometer A/C flap

12 target digital value A/C flap

13 actual digital value acknowledging potentiometer Fuss/Def flap

14 target digital value Fuss/Def flap

15 actual digital value acknowledging potentiometer ram air flap

16 target digital value ram air flap

17 driving speed (km/h)

18 actual value of the blower tension (volt)

19 desired value of the blower tension (volt)

20 actual value of the generator/on-board tension (volt)

21 number of low-voltage events (not volatile)

22 sound condition of the high pressure switch

23 number of high pressure events (volatile)

24 number of high pressure events (not volatile)

25 A/D value kickdown switch

26 A/D value hot light

27 engine speed

28 generator number of revolutions

29 coding

30 software-Version

31 software index

32 potentiometer error counters temperature flap

33 potentiometer error counters A/C flap

34 potentiometer error counters Fuss/Def flap

35 potentiometer error counters ram air flap

36 temperature flap notice cold

37 temperature flap notice warm

38 A/C flap notice closed

39 A/C flap notice opened

40 Fuss/Def flap notice Def

41 Fuss/Def flap notice foot

42 ram air flap notice up

43 ram air flap notice too

44 operating cycle counters

45 interior temperature counted (Ninc) dig

46 outside temperature filtered (

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Pentru Audi A4, climatronic-ul "vechi" (pana in feb99), procedura de "activare" si dictionarul de valori -> articolul "Unlocking the Secrets within the Climate Control Panel, Article By: Mark Quinn - 1998"

http://www.audiworld.com/tech/int6.shtml

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In concediu asta am avut timp sa fac niste teste si iata o chestie peste care am dat si care m-a cam nedumerit:

La mine climatronicul imi afiseaza viteza vehiculului pe codul 17.

Stiind ca ceasul de bord in mod normal (din fabrica) indica ceva mai mult decat in realitate, ma asteptam ca viteza indicata de climatronic sa fie mai mica decat cea indicata de ceas. Surpriza insa! Viteza indicata de climatronic este mai mare decat cea de pe ceas (de exemplu: la 150km/h pe ceas climatronicul arata 163 etc).

O alta chestie ciudata e ca stand pe loc viteza e raportata de climatronica fiind 2 !? Am avut impresia la un moment dat ca am vazut si 0 imediat dupa plecarea de pe loc ... dar s-ar putea sa ma fi inselat.

Ce parere aveti? Care din indicatoare e mai aproape de adevar? (Masina e "incaltata" cu aceleasi pneuri cu care a venit 195/65/R15)

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Ce parere aveti? Care din indicatoare e mai aproape de adevar? (Masina e "incaltata" cu aceleasi pneuri cu care a venit 195/65/R15)

Viteza masurata de ABS si citita cu vag-com?

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to Alex: Viteza reala o citesti pe canalul 16. Referinta pentru masina ta este in tabelul postat de AndiTDI.

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Viteza indicata de climatronic este mai mare decat cea de pe ceas (de exemplu: la 150km/h pe ceas climatronicul arata 163 etc).

Probabil canalul 17 indica altceva decat pare.

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Nu. Canalul 16 imi indica 25 tot timpul ... sau cel putin eu numai valoarea aia am vazut-o. Sunt absolut sigur ca viteza este afisata pe 17. N-am mai vazut anomalia cu afisarea valorii "2" la stationare, dar la viteze mai mari problema pe care am prezentat-o este in continuare valabila. Am sa mai testez daca mai am timp si loc unde sa o fac.

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este diferenta intre SKODA/VW si AUDI/SEAT la canale. Diferenta este de +1 exact cum zice toni in postul anterior.

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Salutari,

Stie cineva cum activezi diagnosticarea asta la SEAT Cordoba 2001?

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By the way, am si eu un pitic pe creier: functia ECON de la climatronic ce face si cand este utila? Ca sa exemplific: cand temp de afara e mai mare ca temp din masina si pun ECON se cam duce "racirea", ok, invers cand temp din masina ar trebui sa fie mai mare decat afara si pun ECON iaca fassss, ramane tot rece si se incalzeste numa' daca las pe AUTO.

Multumesc pentru raspunsuri :salut:

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ECON vine de la "economic" si de fapt programele de climatronic nu mai folosesc compresorul de A/C.. adica ai doar ventilatie astfel spus asistata electronic :salut:

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Ok. Dar de ce cand trebuie sa dea caldura pe AUTO da super fain iar daca apas ECON automat incepe sa fie mai rece. Am inteles ca ECON opreste compresorul, dar logic, compresorul e necesar pentru a raci in masina.

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Stie cineva daca la noul Climatronic ( Golf V ,Touran, Octavia 2 etc ) se mai pot afisa astfel diversele date de la senzori ? Faza e ca am doar doua mini display-uri pentru cele doua temperaturi (stanga-dreapta) si in loc de sageti am rotite ..

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Ok. Dar de ce cand trebuie sa dea caldura pe AUTO da super fain iar daca apas ECON automat incepe sa fie mai rece. Am inteles ca ECON opreste compresorul, dar logic, compresorul e necesar pentru a raci in masina.

Ciudat. Ar trebui verificata climatizarea. S-ar putea sa ai o problema cu unul din motorasele pas cu pas.

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