Scanarea cu VCDS - erori aparute

[Lucian M]

Fratilor, e groasa! Rau, din cate observ...

 

Jetta mk5 MY 2010, 1,6 tdi 77kw, 78k km. Semnal de EGR cu debit redus inca din vara trecuta, ieri s-a aprins spira si engine la o talpa mai greuta, pe la 3000 si ceva rpm a facut un puffffff si a pierdut putere. Azi, venind de la 22 km, i s-a aprins spira si engine, m-a chemat sa ii fac o diagnoza, iar rezultatele sunt mai jos. Importante sunt cele de la motor, usa dreapta-spate nu e asa importanta, cu geamul s-a rezolvat dupa stergerea erorii si invatarea procedurii automate.

Am sunat pe cineva, cica nu se scapa fara EGR, intr-o prima faza. Daca aveti vreun sfat pana maine dimineata, e bine-primit.

 

Tuesday,04,March,2014,14:18:00:37412
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.0 (x64)
Data version: 20111111



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Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZAM008616   

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 AN    HW: 03L 906 023 A
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H23 4881  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00114016030400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00184
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AN 001003
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AN.rod
   VCID: 72E1AB6CA5B43EE

3 Faults Found:
7337 - EGR System
          P0401 00 [101] - Insufficient Flow
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 29
                    Mileage: 78736 km
                    Date: 2052.14.25
                    Time: 13:43:14

7286 - Turbocharger Boost Control Position Sensor Circuit
          P2563 00 [175] - Implausible Signal
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Mileage: 78726 km
                    Date: 2052.14.25
                    Time: 11:46:59

7385 - Boost Pressure Regulation
          P0234 00 [096] - Limit Exceeded (Overboost Condition)
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 78708 km
                    Date: 2052.14.24
                    Time: 18:31:33

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD    HW: 1K0 907 379 AD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0106  
   Revision: 00H35001    
   Coding: 113B200D09220002881104E5901F00413000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 74EDAD74D7A030E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 BC    HW: 5K0 907 044 BC
   Component: Climatronic   H14 0608  
   Revision: 00003001    
   Coding: 0000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00088
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
   ROD: EV_Climatronic_VW36.rod
   VCID: 6DDBB810BC8AE16

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086     HW: 5K0 937 086
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    008 0019  
   Revision: BC008001    
   Coding: 40000A3A902D02E0400000800000012003000088500081605C8000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: F1E3246028B2856

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 03070  21  0501
   Coding: 009795

2 Faults Found:
00447 - Function Limitation due to Over-Voltage
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 246
                    Mileage: 78466 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2116.14.24
                    Time: 11:25:28

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.25 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01314 - Engine Control Module
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 249
                    Mileage: 78031 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2116.14.15
                    Time: 16:22:00

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.35 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: 2J AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD2D7EVU  
   Coding: 0012874
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3D7B4850646AB16

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CP    HW: 1K0 953 549 CP
   Component: J0527           053 0111  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 82017BACDD148EE

1 Fault Found:
00888 - Wiper Switch for Intermittent Operation (E22)
            014 - Defective - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 920 860 C    HW: 5M0 920 860 C
   Component: KOMBI         H08 0020  
   Revision: V0008011    Serial number:               
   Coding: 170B00
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00150
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A04010
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_VW36.rod
   VCID: 2E597F1C710C5AE

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AA    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0081  
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 150509F2000053
   Coding: E9807F06000202001002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 66C9C73C517CD2E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 920 860 C    HW: 5M0 920 860 C
   Component: IMMO          H08 0020  
   Revision: V0008011    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01010
   VCID: 2E597F1C710C5AE

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AC    HW: 1K0 959 793 N
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1519  
   Revision: 72009005    Serial number: 00000776998623
   Coding: 0000180
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6FE7A2187E86136

1 Fault Found:
00096 - Drivers Door Central Locking (Safe) Motor (V161)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 193
                    Reset counter: 246
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     2901  
   Revision: 00H15000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 2F676218BE06536

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 AC    HW: 1K0 959 792 N
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1519  
   Revision: 72009005    Serial number: 09022301480303
   Coding: 0000180
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 70E5A16463B80CE

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AA    HW: 1K0 035 186 AA
   Component: Radio RCD310  013 0036  
   Revision: 01000000    Serial number: VWZ1Z2I6131682
   Coding: 0500040004
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 65CBC0306C7AD96

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AG    HW: 1K0 959 795 R
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1401  
   Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000004083065
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 75EB90701CDA296

No fault code found.

 

 

[pronet]

Pe langa egr verificat si turbina -capsula sau geometrie variabila cu pb.

[Lucian M]

Am inteles ca se lasa cu minim 20 mil doar EGR-ul... Cica trebuie desfacut nu stiu ce pe sub motor, ca nu iese asa usor EGR-ul. Uf, si doar i-am spus de anul trecut sa mearga sa curete rahatul ala de EGR... Si ca era mai bine sa fi luat modelul cu motor de 1,9, dar a zis ca e tare ambreiajul...

Mama ei de viata, masina de 18.700 euro...

[Guest Dolfin]

Nu se curata EGR la 1,6 CR TDI, daca are reviziile la dealer poate incerca sa repare pe kulanta.

 

Cat despre turbina, acolo este vina soferului si/poate intervalele de schimb ulei.

[Lucian M]

S-a schimbat uleiul doar la 15k km. Din pacate, reviziile nu s-au facut doar la dealer (doar vreo 3, daca nu ma insel), asa ca orice interventie in garantie mi se pare lipsita de speranta...

[EEXCALADE]

Cum a spus si pronet pare a fi actuatorul .Pune VCDS-ul in engine,B.S. grup 011  da ON/OFF si urmareste daca tija lucreaza.

[Lucian M]

Merci de pont, incerc asta in cateva minute, ca merg pana la tata. Cu motor pornit, banuiesc.

[EEXCALADE]

Da,cu motorul pornit. Motorul se va accelera la 1407 rpm si diferenta dintre On si Off trebuie sa fie de aprox 150-190mbar

Modificat 4 Martie, 2014 de EEXCALADE

[Lucian M]

Receptionat, acuma plec!

[Rune]

Lucian M  & EEXCALADE

Ptr a aproxima putin starea  actuatorului  cel mai  frumos este sa faci un log BS 011 cu motorul rece, si apoi dupa ce vii de la drum ,cand motorul este garantat bine incalzit, sa faci din nou un log  BS 011.

 

Dupa ce ai ambele loguri la cald si la rece, le pui in grafic si le compari.

Aici  un exemplu:

 

[EEXCALADE]

Da,intredevar pe chart lucrurile se vad mult mai clar.Multumim!

[Lucian M]

Facut test, tija aia nu se mișcă deloc. Nu mai stiu ce comenzi am dat, dar turatia a crescut brusc, tija a ramas pe loc.

[EEXCALADE]

Acum,porneste motorul ,scoate furtunasul de la actuator si vezi daca are vacuum.

Daca are vacuum sunt 2 variante: 1 membrana actuatorului e sparta; 2 geometria variabila blocata.

Modificat 4 Martie, 2014 de EEXCALADE

[Lucian M]

Incerc maine, cand mergem la service.

 

Pacat ca prin Neamt nu prea sunt niste baieti cu manute pricepute, ca in alte orase...

[andrei_221]

la turbina cred ca e defect si senzorul de pozitie tija (cel incorporat in actuatorul vacuumatic)...  Si din ce vad in ETKA nu se gaseste separat.

La motoarele de 2.0 CR vine separat, costa vreo 8-9 milioane.

[ionutzz]

Nu sa mai intalnit nimeni cu erorile din postul #6020 ?

Multumesc!

[Lucian M]

La senzorul ala m-a dus si pe mine gandul... Pe cata economie a facut anii astia cu motorina, pe atata o sa basculeze deodata cu pozna asta.

[andrei_221]

Nu sa mai intalnit nimeni cu erorile din postul #6020 ?

Multumesc!

daca ai verificat firele la injectoare si sunt in regula (tot odata verifica si alimentarile) atunci ai probleme la calculatorul de motor.

Modificat 4 Martie, 2014 de andrei_221

[floro_st205]

ionutzz

eu unul as incepe cu ultima eroare http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/18010/P1602/005634 daca nimic ...cum zice colegul andrei_221 ,calculatorul .

Modificat 4 Martie, 2014 de floro_st205

[acoplanstar]

salutare. imi merge passatul foarte prost de cateva zile, am facut o scanare si am gasit urm erori:

Control Module Part Number: 038 906 018 N
  Component and/or Version:  1,9l R4 EDC   00SG  1631
           Software Coding: 00002
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00028
7 Faults Found:
01237 - Fuel Shut-Off Valve (N109)
        31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
        27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
        27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01266 - Glow Plug Relay (J52)
        31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
00626 - Glow Plug Indicator Light (K29)
        31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
        P1570 - 35-00 - -
01268 - Quantity Adjuster (N146)
        18-10 - Upper Limit - Intermittent

 

ma ajuta si pe mine cineva cu rastalmacirea? multumesc

[Al Bundy]

Sterge erorile si vezi care mai apar.

[Lucian M]

Fost azi la service. Tija actuatorului e intepenita, probabil geometria bacsita. Se va da jos turbo, verificat, daca e de naspa, trimis la reconditionat. EGR va fi si el verificat. Masina a ramas la service.

[romytaxy]

Pt.Lucian.

Ia legatura cu Excalade,e aproape de tine.

[terminatoru]

Se poate ca in urma acestor erori sa porneasca motorul si sa se opreasca la 2-3 secunde?(din cate stiu eu n-au nici o treaba cu pornitul/opritul motorului). Mentionez ca erorile au fost sterse si nu au mai reaparut. A facut treaba asta de vreo 2-3 ori , s-a scos mufa de la debitmetru si a pornit,drept urmare prietenul cu masina in pricina a schimbat debitmetrul si de atunci nu a mai facut asa.

 

Nu ma lasa sa atasez erorile , nu stiu de ce? :tuktuk:

Le scriu pe scurt: 17552-MAF - open or short to ground

                             17965-Charge pressure control: positive deviation

                              17564-Manifold pressure sensor-open/short to ground

                               17569-Manifold tem sensor-open or short to plus

Toate sunt cu intermittent.

Modificat 5 Martie, 2014 de terminatoru

[EEXCALADE]

Porneste si se opreste in 2-3 secunde "miroase" a immobilizer