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Corpul EGR este doar tinut pt clapeta si valva n18 este scoasa,iar trasul de vacum scurtat

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Buna seara, la un ve touareg 2.5 tdi, ce presiune ar trebuii sa faca turbo pe bs 011 la on/off ?

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Asa arata presiunile dupa curatare turbina, planarea carcasa turbinei care avea uzura, si bucsarea pompei tandem cu un stut .

Operatiunile au fost facute la 

romytaxy

in Radauti

 

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Cam asa arata turbina inainte de curatare:

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

salut, ma poate ajuta un coleg.. cum pot sa aflu ce cod am pe turbina ? golf 4 1.9 tdi-pd,, 74kw 101 cp, 2003. vreau sa cumpar o turbina din alta tara si imi este frica sa nu o cumpar degeaba sa nu se potriveasca.

multumesc

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Daca postezi un VIN si codul motor al masinii poate te ajuta colegii, mai sunt si cataloage de piese gratis pe internet si gasesti exact codul ...

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Teoretic e un axr /atd si as spune KKK dar posteaza VIN-ul masinii si ti se va spune exact.

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Motorul poate sa fie un ATD sau AXR.

 

Pentru ATD, sunt mai multe coduri de turbina, in functie de seria VIN:

- 038253056A - teava de esapament cu turbocompresor, BORGWARNER pana la 1J_4_300.000

- 038253056AX - cu turbina veche la schimb,  teava de esapament cu turbocompresor, BORGWARNER pana la 1J_4_300.000

Pentru turbina de mai sus, cand aceasta se gasea separat, codul era 038253016L.

 

- 038253010S - teava de esapament cu turbocompresor,  BORGWARNER de la 1J_4_300.001

- 038253010SX - cu turbina veche la schimb, teava de esapament cu turbocompresor, cu turbina veche la schimb,  BORGWARNER de la 1J_4_300.001

Pentru turbina de mai sus, cand aceasta se gasea separat, codul era 038253010S.

 

Pentru AXR:

- 038253010HX - cu turbina veche la schimb,  teava de esapament cu turbocompresor, BORGWARNER 

Pentru turbina de mai sus, cand aceasta se gasea separat, codul era 038253016N.

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multumesc colegi, o sa pun si vin-ul cand ajung acasa, dar in concluzie vad ca turbina este garrett, multumesc de ajutor

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Da si mie mi-a placut concluzia ca e Garett pana la urma lol . Dar ca sa fiu si ontopic, cred ca daca isi ia omul Garett nu o sa se potriveasca nu ?

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Evident ca nu, si la BORGWARNER, in functie de cod mai exista niste cleme de pozitionare, etc...

In fara de asta ECU stie ca o sa comande un BORGWARNER, cu o anumita curpa de raspuns, etc...

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Revin cu un update dupa ce am condus masina dupa curatare si reglaj turbina pe care am postat mai sus .

Masina merge extraordinar, la 320k trage ca la 198k cand am cumparat-o poate si mai bine .

In cei 500 de km pe care i-am facut a fost o placere sa merg cu masina.

Ce e interesant e ca a si scazut consumul, pana acum am 5.5 in bord, am facut 800 de km si imi mai arata inca 250 ca pot face, deci o curatare la 200k si un reglaj cred ca se recupereaza doar din diferenta de consum .

Asadar merita !

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am si eu o intrebare pot schimba o tubina de pe un motor de passat cc 2.0TDI 136 CP cutie manuala, cu una de pe un motor de 2.0 TDI 170 CP cutie automata?? ....si daca merge  dupa ce o schimb mai trebuie codata ceva?


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Va salut! Passat B5 1.9 TDI AVF 131 CP cu urmatoarele probleme:

 

- putere scazuta motor
- turbina suiera la relanti

 

Atasez un LOG VCDS facut in treapta a 3-a. Valva N75 schimbata (cu una din dezmembrari), EGR curatat, furtunuri vacuum verificate si schimbate cele crapate. Ce mai trebuie verificat si ce e de facut? La prima scanare VCDS am avut eroare 17965 - P1557-35-10 - deviatie pozitiva intermitenta. Multumesc!

 

Thursday,17,December,2015,19:54:00:62939,VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64),Data version: 20130910 038 906 019 EP,,1.9l R4 EDC 0000SG  1442,   ,Group A:,'003,,,,Group B:,'010,,,,Group C:,'011 ,,Engine speed,MAF (specified),MAF (actual),EGR duty cycle,,MAF,Atmos. pressure,Intake air press.,Throttle,,Engine speed,Spec. intake press.,Actual intake press.,D.cycle MAP ,TIME,790-870,230-310,210-350,40-75%,TIME,900-1250,sensor -f96-,2100-2600,100%,TIME,2850-3150,2200-2400,2100-2600,35-80% Marker,STAMP, /min, mg/str, mg/str, %,STAMP, mg/str, mbar,, %,STAMP, /min, mbar,, % ,0.68,861,305.0,465.5,73.3,0.00,450.8,1009.8,2983.5,13.7,0.35,1281,999.6,2983.5,22.7 ,1.63,1155,420.0,475.3,84.1,0.99,450.8,1009.8,2983.5,0.0,1.32,1197,1122.0,2983.5,19.9 ,2.64,1197,490.0,519.4,81.7,1.96,475.3,1009.8,2983.5,22.7,2.30,1176,1224.0,2983.5,21.5 ,3.68,1302,480.0,441.0,72.1,2.98,431.2,1009.8,2983.5,31.8,3.33,1260,1234.2,2983.5,93.6 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Salut baieti...

In urma cu ceva timp dupa o vizita la mecanic, mi-a zis ca nu mai functioneaza capsula vacuumatica (actuatorul)...cum ca sa spart membrana in ea si e plina de ulei si nu mai functioneaza...din cauza asta masina trage mai greu in treptele 4 si 5...

motorul meu este AHU, 90 cai cu turbina cu geometrie fixa- garrett...

am luat o capsula din dezmembrari, functionala, insa imi este teama sa o schimb sa nu dereglez ceva pt ca sincer sunt aproape multumit de cum trage acum...de curand am inlocuit injectoarele cu unele de AFN si mi se pare ca a inceput sa traga mai bine si in treptele 4 si 5 (mai liniar)...ba mai mult viteza maxima atinsa fiind de 180...fata de 170 abia abia...

 

Idee e ca piticu de pe creier ma indeamna sa inlocuiesc si capsula vacuumatica, daca tot am achizitionat una functionala...poate poate trage si mai bine..

Rugamintea mea ar fi sa imi explice si mie careva dintre voi ce rol are actuatorul la modelele cu turbo cu geometrie fixa..si care ar fi simptomele sa imi dau seama daca e dusa cea ce se afla momentan pe masina...am citit pe net ceva ceva dar sunt total in ceata...ba deschide, ba inchide, ba reduce presiunea, ba da mai multa...???

 

Stima!

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La turbinele cu westgate reglarea presiunii se face printr-o valvă manevrată de acel actuator. Spre deosebite de cele cu geometrie variabilă la cele cu westgate actuatorul merge cu presiune nu cu vacuum. Da o căutare pe net după westgate turbo și vei află mai multe. Problemă nu este dacă trage ci dacă merge în parametrii. Ca să afli asta trebuie să faci un log în mers, vezi pe topicul cu log-uri ca am explicat cum.

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  • 1 month later...
On 12/20/2015 at 11:58 AM, Ghost_rider said:

LOG-ul arhivat

LOG - 17965 - P1556.zip

Ai pus o poza cu TURBO OFF, se poate si una cu ON, adica un BS011 complet. Dupa cele descrise de tine si ce se vede in log pot fii 2 chestii:

1. Surubul limitator prost reglat -> vanele sunt atat de inchise incat ai un back pressure extrem de mare -> invarte trubo f repede (motivul suieratului la relanti)

2. Senzorul de presiune MAP - incearca un altul daca turbina e reglata corect.

numai bine!

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  • 2 weeks later...
laurentiu_moraru

Salut

Masina este G4 an 2000 motor AJM.

Dupa reconditionarea turbinei si schimbarea actuatorului am ajuns la un consum maricel aprox 10% urban Galati si un mers anormal al masinii fata de cum stiam.

La schimbarea actuatorului nu au fost facute reglaje, teste etc.

Am facut cateva log-uri din care observ o presiune prea mare in turbina si care ar putea influenta consumul.

Va rog sa va faceti timp si pentru log-urile mele si orice sfat este bine venit.

Multumesc.

 

LOG-01-003-010-011.xls

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LOG-01-011-xxx-xxx.xls

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Prin Craiova cine poate regla tija de la o turbina, la Passat B5.5 AVF?

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