Electronic Parking Brake (Frana De Mana) si Auto-Hold

[F l o r i n]

ca sa vezi sigur, in afara de scanare, se da jos motorasul/etrierul si se verifica - avem colegi care te pot ajuta cu reconditionarea motoraselor

[Al Bundy]

In cazul in care actionez frana de buton, ambele roti blocandu-se, iar apoi la deblocare roata din spate dreapta ramane blocata, mai sunt ceva sanse de a recupera motorasul de frana?

 

Este posibil sa fie problema cu alta piesa in afara de strict motorasul de pe partea dreapta? (etrier, electric?)

 

 

Multumesc.

In majoritatea cazurilor se reconditioneaza cu succes motorasul.

MAi pote fi problema cu calc franei de mana.

[romytaxy]

EU nu pot sa dau sfaturi de improvizatii cand e vorba de sistemul de franare.

[uhu]

buna as dori si eu un sfat ce as putea sa mai fac

 

 am eroarea 02432 dupa ce mi-a ramas blocata roata stanga, am desfacut-o si am reconditionat motorul de frana (care era bineninteles crapat). eroarea nu o pot sterge si am verificat nu imi vine curent la mufa cablului de pe stanga. Am incercat sa sterg eroarea si cu motorul pornit si am verificat si sigurtantele. Ce pot face

 

PS dreapta functioneaza perfect dar am concert in habitaclu...

[F l o r i n]

verifica siguranta, verifica cablajul - daca sunt toate ok, etrier ok, atunci calculatorul franei de mana este de vina

[EEXCALADE]

uhu

Ca sa simplifici problema inverseaza motorasele

[F l o r i n]

Catalinu.... daca nu ii vine curent in mufa, le inverseaza degeaba.....

Modificat 9 Decembrie, 2015 de F l o r i n

[EEXCALADE]

Curentul nu vine doar cateva secunde pana sesizeaza ca nu e nici un consumator?

[F l o r i n]

no, a zis ca nu vine - pai ori vine, ori nu vine ?

 

sincer - nu am masurat cat timp trimite comanda catre motoras - o sa verific la urmatoarea.

[uhu]

nu vine curent, am incercat si in mufa si am incercat si prin inteparea firelor mai sus de mufa apasand incontinuu butonul de frana de mana. azi voi merge si o sa incerc o verificare vizuala a firelor pana la intrarea in masina, in caz ca nu e nici un defect voi comanda un calculator de frana de mana...

[Al Bundy]

Pune un bec de 55W in mufa in locul motorasului si vezi daca vine curent.

[uhu]

La verificarea vizuala nu se vede nici un defect care sa sara in ochi, o sa mai incerc maine sa vad cu becul, oricum comand deja un computer de frana de mana...

[andrei.laviniu]

Ma poate ajuta cineva ce pot face cu erorile astea?

02433 - Supply Voltage for Right Parking Brake Motor (V283)

012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11111100

Fault Priority: 1

Fault Frequency: 3

Reset counter: 169

Mileage: 210984 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2015.12.10

Time: 15:03:23

Freeze Frame:

Voltage: 13.87 V

Count: 87

02431 - Right Parking Brake Motor (V283) Resistance to Movement

003 - Mechanical Failure - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11110011

Fault Priority: 3

Fault Frequency: 9

Reset counter: 170

Mileage: 210968 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2015.12.10

Time: 08:44:36

Freeze Frame:

Voltage: 14.60 V

Count: 89

[pronet]

Sa reconditionezi motorasul de pe dreapta. A ramas blocat.

[andrei.laviniu]

Îl pot face eu sau trebuie sa merg la service?

[D@ny]

Pont: citeste topicul!!

[F l o r i n]

Îl pot face eu sau trebuie sa merg la service?

 

asta tu stii, daca ai cu ce - sculele plus kit reparatie, daca te pricepi, etc....

[voly]

Salut,

 

Am si eu o problema cu frana de parcare , nu sunt de vina etrierii, nici butonul , nici cablajul. Imi ramane aprins in bord martorul de fana, pe tester imi da etrier spate stanga. Am pus etrieri noi , alt buton si tot asa ramane. Anul trecut am avut aceeasi problema si problema a fost calculatorul de frana de parcare s-a dat peste cap, un tip cu VAGCOM a modificat o valoare in calculator si a mers. Acelasi tip a incercat si acum sa vada daca e calculatorul dar nu a mai reusit sa il faca.

 

Mai jos scanarea masinii, va rog daca puteti sa ma ajutati

 

 

Chassis Type: 3C (3C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 72 76

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ7P147976   Mileage: 184070km-114375miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: Not registered 0011
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-018-BKP.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 018 CE    HW: 03G 906 018 CE
   Component: R4 2.0l PPD1.5 G    9707  
   Revision: --H45---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 6ADC5A87456C4E71D1F-803F

No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3C0-614-095-C2.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 614 109     HW: 3C0 614 109
   Component: ESP 440 C4     H018 0001  
   Revision:  H018       Serial number: 0775222635
   Coding: 0000034
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 5BB20F439A3627F95A9-800E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3C0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 044 AT    HW: 3C0 907 044 AT
   Component: ClimatronicPQ46 112 0606  
   Revision: 00112021    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 73E247E312A68FB9629-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE    HW: 3C0 937 049 AE
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H52 2002  
   Revision: 00H52000    Serial number: 00000004778879
   Coding: E1800F0700041A00470A00000F00000000095D435C0001
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 6CD05C9F4F985041A33-8039

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C1 955 419 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 191206 003  0205  
   Coding: 00046997
   Shop #: WSC 00028  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS     290708 046  0204  
   Coding: 00208933
   Shop #: WSC 00028  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3C0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 M    HW: 3C0 909 605 M
   Component: 0B AIRBAG VW8   032 2522  
   Revision: 12032000    Serial number: 003B1P54U4NK  
   Coding: 0012354
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 306888EFA330F4A1DFB-8065

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME174C1A61

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME1739590C

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS65JHGSNV6

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6LNFKGLT6

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW20.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 M    HW: 3C0 953 549 M
   Component: J0527               0015  
   Revision: 00006000    Serial number: 3C5953507AG   
   Coding: 0000111
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 3664BEF74154DA91857-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           002 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3C0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 920 871     HW: 3C0 920 871
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1614  
   Revision: V0007000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0007105
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 61CE3DABB85A0D29005-8034

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 3C0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 C    HW: 3C0 907 951 A
   Component: Gateway         007 0040  
   Revision: 00007000    Serial number: 0700C07313045C
   Coding: 3DFD0C44C21002
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 214E7DABF8DA4D29405-8074

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 218
                    Mileage: 184060 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.15
                    Time: 07:40:50


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 R    HW: 3C0 959 433 R
   Component:    IMMO         042 0383  
   Revision: 00042000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 397EB5CB704A35E9685-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 G
   Component:    ELV          027 0380
   3C0905861G     ELV          027 0380   

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 A
   Component: RNS-MID       H04 5230  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7H6011000
   Coding: 00000400000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 377AB3F3865E23999E1-8062

2 Faults Found:
01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 222
                    Mileage: 161216 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.07.24
                    Time: 15:24:24

00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52)
            007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Mileage: 165088 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.11
                    Time: 07:03:01


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 Q    HW: 1K0 959 793 M
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1131  
   Revision: 31008001    Serial number: 00000543478309
   Coding: 0000183
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 3C70ACDF7F7800C1733-8069

1 Fault Found:
00100 - Drivers Interior Locking Button (E308)
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 253
                    Mileage: 184023 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.12
                    Time: 16:44:29


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.135 H07 1806  
   Shop #: WSC 11111 111 11111
   VCID: 346084FF5728C881BB3-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3C0-959-433-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 R    HW: 3C0 959 433 R
   Component:    KSG PQ46 ELV 042 0472  
   Revision: 00042000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 01910A0001860E763004941570084F0B607C00
   Shop #: WSC 00423 995 83677
   VCID: 397EB5CB704A35E9685-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 Q    HW: 1K0 959 792 M
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1131  
   Revision: 31008001    Serial number: 00000505478305
   Coding: 0000182
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 3D76A1DB646209C944D-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3C0-907-801-53.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 801 E    HW: 3C0 907 801 E
   Component: EPB  VC8HC003   013 0003  
   Revision:   013       
   Coding: 0000010
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 244074BFE7C858012B3-8071

2 Faults Found:
02432 - Supply Voltage for Left Parking Brake Motor (V282)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11111100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 10
                    Reset counter: 213
                    Mileage: 183688 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.11.27
                    Time: 11:37:33

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.21 V
                    Count: 86

02430 - Left Parking Brake Motor (V282) Resistance to Movement
            003 - Mechanical Failure - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11110011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 213
                    Mileage: 184016 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.12
                    Time: 16:03:36

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 14.39 V
                    Count: 18


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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 A
   Component: RNS-MID       H04 5230  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7H6011000
   Coding: 00000400000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 377AB3F3865E23999E1-8062

2 Faults Found:
01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
            000 -  -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 222
                    Mileage: 161216 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.07.24
                    Time: 15:24:24

00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52)
            007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Mileage: 165088 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.10.11
                    Time: 07:03:01


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 P    HW: 1K0 959 795 G
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1118  
   Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000001467981
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 3D76A1DB646209C944D-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 P    HW: 1K0 959 794 G
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1118  
   Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000001478129
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 3E74A6D7696412D15D7-806B

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 3C0-919-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 919 283 C    HW: 3C0 919 283 C
   Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan 004 0013  
   Revision: 00004000    Serial number: 90630707308221
   Coding: 0000014
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 295E658B80EA8569185-807C

1 Fault Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 21
                    Reset counter: 222
                    Mileage: 184021 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.12
                    Time: 16:19:22


End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:22)--------------------------

[EEXCALADE]

Daca motorasele sunt noi iti ramane de verificat etrier si cablaj

[F l o r i n]

nu pare sa fie de cablaj, intrucat eroarea care o da acuma, pare sa fie de etrier blocat - etc - noi... nouti etrierii... sau noi SH ?

 

verifica totusi etrierul de pe stanga, cum functioneaza la alimentare directa (scurt timp), ca  sa sati linistit, inainte sa te apuci sa schimbi si altele.

[voly]

am pus la loc etrierii vechi, lucrez cu piese auto , am legat doar mufele de la etrieri noi. Interesant la service au zis etrier spate stanga , am adus etrierul si l-au legat pe dreapta si sa stins , au zis ca e de vina dreapta  am adus si pe dreapta  au legat ambii etrieri si iar a aparut ,  i-am pus pe aiai vechi teste.... i-am pus iar pe astia noi iar teste ... , masurat cablaje, tot la fel. Tipul care mi-a rezolvat problema anul trecut imi spune ca e codat ok calculatorul .... dar nu stie ce e cu erooarea din CAN.....

[EEXCALADE]

La can nu e ceva codat bine,posibil navigatia/radio

Modificat 17 Decembrie, 2015 de EEXCALADE

[voly]

masina a venit cu cd player, eu dupa 2 lun am luat o navicatie oe RNS510 si am montat-o , conform seriei trebuia sa imi pape bateria in 48 ore, nu s-a intamplat functioneaza ok si nu manaca bateria... singurul inconvenient ca pe display nu imi arata vizual senzorii (banuiesc ca trebuie alti senzori) si "nu vorbeste"  sunetul merge ok radio/muzica  dar tipa care ar trebui sa imi dea indicatii e muta :)

 

cat despre frane anul trecut s-au blocat etrierii si singura varianta a fost alimentarea directa ca sa pot muta masina , dupa schimbat etrieri, buton , testere , 3 serviceuri si multa bataie de cap s-a costatat ca s-a dat peste cap calcu. La fel si acum , pot face o scanare pe calcu de frana???  sa vedem ceva valori ? (cu cabl clona nu oe)

[F l o r i n]

am pus la loc etrierii vechi, lucrez cu piese auto , am legat doar mufele de la etrieri noi. Interesant la service au zis etrier spate stanga , am adus etrierul si l-au legat pe dreapta si sa stins , au zis ca e de vina dreapta  am adus si pe dreapta  au legat ambii etrieri si iar a aparut ,  i-am pus pe aiai vechi teste.... i-am pus iar pe astia noi iar teste ... , masurat cablaje, tot la fel. Tipul care mi-a rezolvat problema anul trecut imi spune ca e codat ok calculatorul .... dar nu stie ce e cu erooarea din CAN.....

 

problema pe stanga nu pare sa fie electrica.... si asa ca e normal sa poti sterge erorile, pana actionezi frana si motorasul da de greu.

 

l-ai probat pe direct ? daca nu, da-l jos si verifica-l. Nu are treaba cu cablajul.. asa cum am mai spus. Nu e treaba de codare, etc...

[CosminAndrei92]

Salut, am reconditionat motorasul de la frana de mana dupa partea dreapta si acum cand l-am pus tot nu merge, erorile sunt aprinse in bord in continuare si frana nu functioneaza. Trebuie sincronizate cumva?