Scanarea cu VCDS - erori aparute

[ome_Raz]

buan ziua .as dori daca se poate sa va dati cu parerea despre ce se intampla la mine .am scanat masina si mi-a dat urmatoarele coduri :

VAG-COM Version: Release 311.2-N

Control Module Part Number: 036 906 034 BB

Component and/or Version: MARELLI 4LV 3772

Software Coding: 00031

Work Shop Code: WSC 00001

7 Faults Found:

17989 - Throttle Actuator (J338): Basic Setting Not Performed

P1581 - 35-00 - -

17950 - Angle Sensor 1 for Throttle Actuator (G187): Implausible Signal

P1542 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17953 - Throttle Valve Controller: Malfunction

P1545 - 35-00 - -

17566 - Manifold Pressure Sensor (G71): Implausible Signal

P1158 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17953 - Throttle Valve Controller: Malfunction

P1545 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer

P1570 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

17962 - Throttle Actuator (J338): Conditions for Basic Settings not Met

P1554 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

VAG-COM Version: Release 311.2-N

Chassis Type: 1J - VW G/J/B Mk4

Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,17,19,22,35,46,56

Address 01 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 036 906 034 BB

Component: MARELLI 4LV 3772

Coding: 00031

Shop #: WSC 00001

No fault code found.

Address 03 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 1J0 907 379 P

Component: ABS 20 IE CAN 0001

Coding: 03504

Shop #: WSC 01317

No fault code found.

Address 08 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 3B1 907 044 C

Component: CLIMATRONIC C 0.7.0

Coding: 01000

Shop #: WSC 01317

1 Fault Found:

00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)

30-00 - Open or Short to B+

Skipping Address 15-Airbags

Address 17 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 1J0 920 825 A

Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. BOO V01

Coding: 05123

Shop #: WSC 00000

Ident.-Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0Y1948119

2 Faults Found:

01176 - Key

07-10 - Signal to Low - Intermittent

01314 - Engine Control Module

49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

Address 19 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 6N0 909 901

Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001

Coding: 00006

Shop #: WSC 01317

1 Fault Found:

01314 - Engine Control Module

49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

Address 46 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 1J0 959 799 AH

Component: 4E Zentral-SG Komf. 0001

Coding: 04097

Shop #: WSC 01317

4 Faults Found:

00950 - Central Locking Motor - tailgate (V53): UNLOCK

25-00 - Unknown Switch Condition

01030 - Central Locking Key Switch: Driver Side: Lock

29-00 - Short to Ground

00943 - Heated Exterior Mirror: Driver Side (Z4)

35-10 - - - Intermittent

00912 - Window Regulator Switch: Front Left (E40)

27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

VAG-COM Version: Release 311.2-N

Chassis Type: 1J - VW G/J/B Mk4

Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,17,19,22,35,46,56

Address 01 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 036 906 034 BB

Component: MARELLI 4LV 3772

Coding: 00031

Shop #: WSC 00001

No fault code found.

Address 03 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 1J0 907 379 P

Component: ABS 20 IE CAN 0001

Coding: 03504

Shop #: WSC 01317

No fault code found.

Address 08 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 3B1 907 044 C

Component: CLIMATRONIC C 0.7.0

Coding: 01000

Shop #: WSC 01317

1 Fault Found:

00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)

30-00 - Open or Short to B+

Skipping Address 15-Airbags

Address 17 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 1J0 920 825 A

Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. BOO V01

Coding: 05123

Shop #: WSC 00000

Ident.-Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0Y1948119

2 Faults Found:

01176 - Key

07-10 - Signal to Low - Intermittent

01314 - Engine Control Module

49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

Address 19 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 6N0 909 901

Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001

Coding: 00006

Shop #: WSC 01317

1 Fault Found:

01314 - Engine Control Module

49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

Address 46 -------------------------------------------------------

Controller: 1J0 959 799 AH

Component: 4E Zentral-SG Komf. 0001

Coding: 04097

Shop #: WSC 01317

4 Faults Found:

00950 - Central Locking Motor - tailgate (V53): UNLOCK

25-00 - Unknown Switch Condition

01030 - Central Locking Key Switch: Driver Side: Lock

29-00 - Short to Ground

00943 - Heated Exterior Mirror: Driver Side (Z4)

35-10 - - - Intermittent

00912 - Window Regulator Switch: Front Left (E40)

27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

[cuiuda]

Salut

Ma gandesc ca erorile pe motor "te afecteaza" mai tare :icon_cheesygrin:

Mai intai ar trebui sa cureti clapeta de acceleratie sa stergi erorile si sa incerci sa faci o adaptare. Apoi mai faci o scanare. Daca persisite erorile de clapeta atunci treaba se complica putin.

[ome_Raz]

clapeta a fost curatata si adaptat si schimbata cu una noua si problema persista .am fost la toate sersurile de prin oras .fiecare sia dat cu presupusu,ca ar fi un cabul untrerup,ca ar fi ecu.ce e naspa ca masina cateodata merge bine cateodata nu ma lasa sa o accelerez .intra in safe mod si nu se tureaza.problea asta de cel putin un an ma deranjeaza.azi vara vreo 3 4 luni nu ma deranjat deloc.am mers bine si nu sau aprins nici un martor in bord.cand masina nu functioneaza normal e aprin epc si cel de la motoras

[SOLAR]

ome_Raz verifica bateria si alternatorul.

Dupa ce verifici astea stergi erorile si vezi ce mai apar.

Modificat 24 Septembrie, 2011 de divinewind

[tim27]

Salut! La o scanare mi-a aparut urmatoarea eroare:

Componenta: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 3332

Cod gasit: Cititi memoria de defecte la modul bord

P1654 - 35-00 - -

Pe net am gasit ca fiind ceva legat de sistem de racire, dar apa imi sta normal la 90 grade, iar masina trage normal, cel putin asa mi se pare. De la ce poate fi si cum pot sa remediez problema? In caz ca merg la un service nu vreau nici sa ma traduca aia. (Am incercat sa resetez eroarea, dar la fiecare scanare ulterioara reapare) Multumesc!

[Al Bundy]

Pai si pe IC ce eroare ai ?

[tim27]

Pe IC nu mi-a aparut nici o avertizare. La scanare atat imi arata.

[Swat Cat]

parca parca ... eroare asta apare atunci cand se umbla la Km din bord

[ciobanumihai]

Salutare.

Am facut si eu o diagnoza cu VAG COM si mi-a dat urmatoarele erori:Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-019-AJM.lbl

Part No: 038 906 019 AM

Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G000SG 0813

Coding: 00002

Shop #: WSC 01317

VCID: 62CFAEBBC68F

1 Fault Found:

18057 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ABS Controller

P1649 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Readiness: 0 0 X X X

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl

Part No: 1C0 907 379

Component: ESP 20 CAN V005

Coding: 18945

Shop #: WSC 01317

VCID: E7D93FAFADAD

9 Faults Found:

00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left (G47)

35-00 - -

65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error

00-00 - -

01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)

57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)

49-00 - No Communications

00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left (G47)

16-10 - Signal Outside Specifications - Intermittent

00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left (G47)

04-10 - Mechanical Malfunction - Intermittent

01130 - ABS Operation

27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)

27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)

27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 3Bx-907-044.lbl

Part No: 3B1 907 044 C

Component: CLIMATRONIC C 0.7.0

Coding: 01000

Shop #: WSC 01317

VCID: 214DE1B78309

1 Fault Found:

01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)

37-00 - Faulty

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl

Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A

Component: 02 AIRBAG VW5 0004

Coding: 12338

Shop #: WSC 01317

VCID: 356525E72781

2 Faults Found:

01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200)

32-10 - Resistance too High - Intermittent

01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)

49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx0-17.lbl

Part No: 1J0 920 802 G

Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. BOO V27

Coding: 01144

Shop #: WSC 00000

VCID: 2759FFAFED2D

Subsystem 1 - Part No: Ident

Component: Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0X1492117

Ident.-Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0X1492117

1 Fault Found:

01316 - ABS Control Module

49-00 - No Communications

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl

Part No: 6N0 909 901

Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001

Coding: 00006

Shop #: WSC 01317

VCID: F0EB54F39863

2 Faults Found:

01316 - ABS Control Module

49-00 - No Communications

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)

49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 35: Centr. Locks Labels: 1C0-962-258-II.lbl

Part No: 1C0 962 258 J

Component: 01 Zentr.Verriegel. 0002

Coding: 04097

Shop #: WSC 01317

VCID: 2E570A8BC2D7

No fault code found.

Va rog frumos sa-mi explice si mie cineva ce inseamna toate aceste erori.

Am in bordul masinii aprinsi martorii de ABS, ESP si frana de mana aprinsa intermitent.

De asemenea martorul de Airbag e aprins.

VA MULTUMESC!

[terrabyt]

@tim27 verifica in measuring block's(pe bord) nivelul si temp la ulei, daca iti arata valori aiurea posibil sa ai senzorul defect.pune o scanare si de la bord.

Modificat 27 Septembrie, 2011 de terrabyt

[F l o r i n]

ciobanumihai , sterge erorile si vezi care reapar. Mai posteaza inca odata, dupa ce rescanezi.

[ciobanumihai]

am rescanat si mi-a dat :

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl

Part No: 1C0 907 379

Component: ESP 20 CAN V005

Coding: 18945

Shop #: WSC 01317

VCID: E7D93FAFADAD

1 Fault Found:

01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)

57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 3Bx-907-044.lbl

Part No: 3B1 907 044 C

Component: CLIMATRONIC C 0.7.0

Coding: 01000

Shop #: WSC 01317

VCID: 214DE1B78309

1 Fault Found:

01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)

37-00 - Faulty

Martorul ESP ramane aprins. Cand franez brusc se aprinde martorul abs iar martorul de la frana de mana se aprinde intermitent. Daca iau contactul si pornesc iar , se sting cei doi martori ( abs si frana de mana).

Modificat 27 Septembrie, 2011 de ciobanumihai

[Al Bundy]

Si dupa ce mergi cu masina si franezi si se aprinde abs nu apar si alte erori?

Trebuie refacute lipiturile de la integratul din senzorul g200.

[cristianlung]

Salutare tuturor, am si eu o problema cu masina din semnatura. Problema nu o intampin tot timpul ci uneori, aleatoriu. Cand pornesc motorul si plec cu masina observ ca nu trage, daca opresc motorul si il repornesc totul revine la normal. am facut o scanare si am urmatoarea eroare:

Tuesday,27,September,2011,19:34:11:21461

VCDS Version: Release 805.0

Address 01: Engine

Control Module Part Number: 03G 906 016 CB

Component and/or Version: R4 1,9L EDC G210SG 6176

Software Coding: 0000072

Work Shop Code: WSC 01392

1 Fault Found:

18000 - Altitude Sensor / Boost Pressure Sensor: Implausible Correlation

P1592 - 000 - -

Freeze Frame:

RPM: 0 /min

Torque: 158.0 Nm

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Load: 0.0 %

Voltage: 12.54 V

Bin. Bits: 00001100

Absolute Pres.: 999.6 mbar

Absolute Pres.: 836.4 mbar

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

Tin sa mentionez ca senzorul de presiune e schimbat cam de 2 luni din aceasi cauza(speram) dar problema persista. Va multumesc tuturor celor care ma pot ajuta.

[ciobanumihai]

Alte erori nu mai am.(doar martorul ESP, ABS si frana de mana intermitent).

Va multumesc pentru raspunsuri.

Voi merge cu masina intr-un service auto sa o repare.

[F l o r i n]

Pt barany

18000/P1592/005522 - Altitude Sensor / Boost Pressure Sensor: Implausible Correlation

Possible Symptoms

• Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) active
  
• Limp Mode active
  

Possible Causes

• Wiring from/to Boost Pressure Sensor (G31) faulty
  
• Ground Spots corroded
  
• Boost Pressure Sensor (G31) faulty
  

Possible Solutions

• Check Wiring from/to Boost Pressure Sensor (G31)
  
• Check Ground Spots for Corrosion
  
• Check Boost Pressure Sensor (G31)
  

Special Notes

• When found in 2.0l TDI-PPD (BMN), check TSB/TPL's first.
  
  • Possible Causes: Software Issue, High Resistance in Engine Wiring Harness, Ground Spots corroded
    
  • Possible Solutions: Check/Update Engine Control Module Software, Check Wiring from/to Boost Pressure Sensor (G31), Check Ground Spots for Corrosion
    

[Al Bundy]

In loc sa-i dai citate de pe diferite site-uri mai bine i-ai spune rezolvarea ...

Aceeasi problema, aceeasi eroare am intalnit-o la inca 2 masini si nu am gasit rezolvarea. La fel ca si la colegul de mai sus eroarea apare doar la pornire, niciodata in mers. La el e aparuta inainte de a porni motorul.

Ce am facut eu la celelalte masini:

Curatat senzor presiune, schimbat senzor presiune, refacut contacte masa ecu , schimbat firele de la senzor.

Modificat 28 Septembrie, 2011 de Al Bundy

[F l o r i n]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ce sa ii zic, daca nu s-a gasit rezolvarea.

Era suficient Possible Causes

• Wiring from/to Boost Pressure Sensor (G31) faulty
  
• Ground Spots corroded
  
• Boost Pressure Sensor (G31) faulty
  

Possible Solutions

• Check Wiring from/to Boost Pressure Sensor (G31)
  
• Check Ground Spots for Corrosion
  
• Check Boost Pressure Sensor (G31)
  

Daca se verifica tot, chimba senzorul si nu scapa de eroare....se incearca o resoftare.

[Al Bundy]

Am mai gasit discutii asemanatoare pe forumurile straine, acolo au schimbat senzorul de altitudine din ECU si la unii problema se rezolvase insa nu la toti. Nu stiu la noi de unde se poate achizitiona acel senzor de altitudine.

Modificat 28 Septembrie, 2011 de Al Bundy

[Swat Cat]

cu asta am avut si eu de a face..... nu am gasit solutie... problema era doar la pornire cateodata... si in functie de vreme.... suspectez o masa corodata

[Juicee]

Salut

Am facut o scanare cu vag-com-ul pe o Octavia II 2.0 TDI BKD. Ma poate ajuta cineva cu o intrepretare. Problema e ca ii scade puterea brusc (limp mode) cand trec de 130km/h sau cand sunt in urcare. Chiar daca masina este goala. Dupa ce iau si pun contactul, merge normal.

VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2

Data version: 20101123

Thursday,29,September,2011,17:54:19:36838

Chassis Type: 1K0

Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: TMBBE21Z082135773

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010

04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000

25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000

72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl

Part No SW: 03G 906 021 LD HW: 03G 906 021 AN

Component: R4 2,0L EDC 000SG 9902

Revision: --H07--- Serial number: SKZ7Z0H4777709

Coding: 0050072

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 6CDCD83470D1E17C

6 Faults Found:

012546 - Motor for Intake Manifold Flap (V157): No Signal

P3102 -- 000 -- - - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100000

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:

RPM: 0 /min

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Load: 0.0 %

Voltage: 12.69 V

Bin. Bits: 00000100

Torque: 0.0 Nm

Torque: 351.4 Nm

000276 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42): Signal Intermittent

P0114 -- 000 -- - - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100000

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:

RPM: 0 /min

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Load: 0.0 %

Voltage: 12.62 V

Temperature: 133.2°C

Temperature: 64.8°C

Temperature: 39.6°C

000581 - Solenoid Valve for Boost Pressure Control (N75): Short to Ground

P0245 -- 000 -- - - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100000

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:

RPM: 0 /min

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Load: 0.0 %

Voltage: 12.62 V

Bin. Bits: 00000100

Absolute Pres.: 183.6 mbar

Absolute Pres.: 2182.8 mbar

012549 - Valve for Intake Manifold Flap (N239): Open or Short to Ground

P3105 -- 000 -- - - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100000

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 2

Mileage: 127564 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 12:36:02

Freeze Frame:

RPM: 798 /min

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Load: 0.0 %

Voltage: 14.29 V

Bin. Bits: 00000100

Torque: 146.4 Nm

Torque: 0.0 Nm

012559 - Unknown Error Code

P310F -- 000 -- - - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100000

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 2

Mileage: 127564 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 12:36:02

Freeze Frame:

RPM: 798 /min

Speed: 0.0 km/h

Load: 0.0 %

Voltage: 14.29 V

Bin. Bits: 00000100

Torque: 146.4 Nm

Torque: 0.0 Nm

000569 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor 2 (G447): Malfunction

P0239 -- 000 -- - - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00110000

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 7

Mileage: 127962 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2000.00.00

Time: 10:28:28

Freeze Frame:

RPM: 3150 /min

Speed: 107.0 km/h

Load: 94.5 %

Voltage: 14.06 V

Bin. Bits: 00000000

Absolute Pres.: 2233.8 mbar

Absolute Pres.: 2590.8 mbar

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl

Part No: 1K0 907 379 P

Component: ASR FRONT MK70 0105

Coding: 0017025

Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000

VCID: 3F865F785127AAE4

1 Fault Found:

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30

002 -- Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl

Part No SW: 1Z0 907 044 AB HW: 1Z0 907 044 AB

Component: ClimatronicPQ35 120 0600

Revision: 00120022 Serial number: 00000000000000

Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

VCID: 76E8FA5C3E9D2BAC

1 Fault Found:

01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)

000 -- - - Intermittent

Mentionez ca nu se aprinde nici un martor pe bord. S-a aprins o data, acum vreo 3 zile, dar dupa ce am sters erorile nu s-a mai aprins.

Modificat 29 Septembrie, 2011 de Juicee

[Al Bundy]

Um nu poti schimba doar n75 separat , trebuie sa schimbi tot blocul de valve, asta dupa ce verifici firele sa nu fie in scurt.

[relu12]

Sal. Am cateva erori date de vag poate ma ajuta cineva sa inteleg ce are .!

Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.lbl

Control Module Part Number: 038 906 012 HA

Component and/or Version: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 4922

Software Coding: 00002

Work Shop Code: WSC 73430

Additional Info: TMBDG41U168831958 SKZ7Z0E3007392

VCID: 56A803AE986F

Fault Codes have been Erased

4 Faults Found:

7 - Boost Pressure Regulation Valve (N75): Open or Short to Ground

P1549 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

9 - EGR Valve (N18): Open Circuit or Short to Ground

P1441 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

0 - Commencement of Injection Valve (N108): Open or Short to Ground

P1252 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

1 - Valve for Intake Manifold Flap (N239): Open or Short to Ground

P3105 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Simptomele ar fi " Nu merge normal motorul , nu se poate merge cu masina pt ca nu se accelereaza constant - doar aiurea prinde/ nu prinde, scoate un fum alb-albastru de te sperii, si am aprins in bord martorul '' motorul ala ''.V-a multumesc .

[cuiuda]

Asa cum ti-am raspuns in celalalt topic, verifica mai intai siguranta 34.

[relu12]

Nu am vazut .Ms o sa verific dar nu mi spui ce rol are siguranta aia?